And Your Point Is? Part III

And so begins Page 3. Who knew there were this many insecure and largely illiterate men in the world? And why oh why do all of them e-mail me?

From Tonie:

If you hate men it's ok .but the fact remains "women cant leave without men"

Leave where? Tee-hee. Usually bad spelling and grammar gets on my nerves but this unfortunate slip-up is too funny for words.

From Anarchist:

Why do you create such an idiotic site about hating men? I want to know why you hate men so much. I think it's because you can't get it up without sitting on your computer making this site. I think you're a bitch for that. SAnd no one on this planet can stop me from saying that no matter who it is... and oh btw FUCK THE POLICE!

Jeez. Only 5 sentences and there are so many things wrong with this short little e-mail that it's hard to know exactly where to begin. Let's go in order, shall we? Sentence 1: Read the FAQ. Sentence 2: Read my bio. Sentence 3: Get WHAT up, exactly? You are aware that only men have something to get up, right? Maybe you should stop worrying about my website and spend your time learning anatomy. Sentence 4: Don't care. Sentence 5: No one's trying to stop you, dude, so calm down. And "Fuck the Police" is a little played out, don't ya think?

From Misogynist, who I assume is also Anarchist:

hating men simply means you can't get it up without spending 6 hours shopping in one store. I hate all women, they're bitches and ho's. And if ANYONE objects to that comment they can go fuck thenmselves. I don't care who I offend and btw fuck the police.

Creative. Two e-mails on two different days and the only thing really different is the fake name used. You have quite the imagination and grasp of the language.

From Zack Morin:

Why don't you bitch's quit fucking complaining and do what you are used to doing laying on your back. Ya'll ain't nothing but a bunch of pussy licking lesbians. So go to hell.

How proud your mother must be. You are not only charming, you have an amazing grasp of the English language. <eyes rolled>

From Cock:

i hate women. dumb ass bitches ruin everything. only reason why we let you in the house is cause we think you might suck us off on occassion. you probably talk through the whole thing you fat piece of shit.

I'm guessing your hopes aren't fulfilled too often, huh? With your personality, I can't see the women lining up at your house for anything, much less that.

i can only begin to imagine what you look like - i'm thinking nightmare in sweat pants sitting in front of a tv blaming everything on men instead of doing something with your life. here's a clue - put down the ice cream and start eating pussy. maybe then men will start paying attention to your lame ass.

Awww...how did you know? That's EXACTLY what I look like. <eyes rolled> Feel free to test your theory against the pictures on my bio.

go have a baby and make me something to eat. cunt

Knock on wood. I have enough babies at the moment. :-) And good luck getting someone to make you anything. You're quite the guy, aren't you?

From Tranik2:

I AM MALE.

U SUCK BIG TIME

Considering the intelligence level of this e-mail, the "I am male" line was totally unnecessary. Your wonderful way with words makes that perfectly clear anyway.

From Russ:

I GOT TO SAY ALL WOMEN ARE CUM RECEPTICALS. THEY ARE ONLY GOOD TO FUCK AND NEVER BE TREATED WITH RESPECT. WOMEN ARE EVIL CHEATING WHORES! ALL WOMEN ARE DOUCH BAGS AND CAN SUCK MY COCK. YA YOU BET I TREAT WOMEN LIKE I WOULD TREAT MY DICK HAVE FUN UNTIL I CUM AND THROW THE WHORE OUT.

Another guy who only gets action in his fantasies. Good luck in life, dude. You'll need it.

From "Anonymous":

How in the world do you expect to find a good man when all you really want is fast cars and money.You girls want to be respected but its hard to respect a person who just uses you for your money and manipulates you with sex, huh, maybe thats what a slut is, someone who makes there way through life using sex. I doubt you actually answer this e-mail and instead try to find some grammatical error and try to put me down because you cant come up with a response.
You seem to use the classical approach through dating (which is just simply dumb).For those who dont know what that is: it is a dating technique in which the woman (whose said to have "power over men") basically refuses to do anything but stare and look approachable and wait for the man to come and talk to her but if he doesnt, nothing happens, (what if that was your dream guy right there and you just missed out?). But the chances of you finding "Mr.Right" using this method is slim to none because this method forces the guy to see you as a sex object and nothing more, since that is the only thing guys look for anyway, and will surely disrespect you througout the entire relationship (if one develops).I think women would find alot better men if they actually go out and look a little and no, im not talking about paying because heaven forbid a girl would ever pay for anything, that would definetly help find a better guys because only the guys you seem to hate go after girls that (that just stare at them) like that because theyre looking for sex.

Once more I doubt you will give a good response or just simply not post this or ,just like the men you describe will just simply lash out with anger trying to prove your point, so I dare you to post this.

Although this is a long e-mail, it doesn't deserve a long response. It boils down to two things. First, read my bio, genius. Then you wouldn't have to put all this time and effort into describing "my" dating style. See, I'm married so I don't date. And second, I love those of you who dare me to post your e-mail, like it's so impressive that I won't be able to answer. I post ALL e-mail. And for the record, there's nothing I can't handle and you weren't even a challenge. Me thinks you overestimate your brilliance and originality.

From Ray:

HEY MORON,YOU ARE A FUCKING WHORE.HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Another one who no doubt makes his mother proud.

From Gabe:

then get a girlfriend

I don't think my husband would appreciate that.

From Ice Cream:

ice cream your site is cool its funny its hilariouse and interesting hahahaaha no seriously it is it keeps me entertained to read penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis penis
i like ice cream

How old are you? Twelve? You like ice cream and you think saying "penis" is funny. And worse, you felt compelled to share it with a total stranger. How sad is that?

From Tammy:

I have come across some trite websites, but this is purley banal!

Like I told someone else, there's a nifty little box in the top right corner of your web browser. Try clicking on it and see what happens. It's "purley" amazing.

From I Hate Dawn:

dawn is a bitch i hate her and she think she is so gd she hit mel and think she need a smack yeah u do bitch

Prouder and prouder....

From Hank:

I love the general responses you give. They're so witty, and charming. I mean.... Like when you repeat what the person said, but give it a sarcastic tone. That's pure genius.... But, really, why don't you try and explain why EVERY single man ruins women's lives. Quit being so vague, saying "they're all stupid, they're pigs, oink oink oink" ...why don't you try point out a common, specific trait that all men have that are so irritable... If you can do this for me, I will join you, whole-heartedly in your man-bashing. PS. This originally wasn't supposed to be hat mail, but your fan mail link is down. Maybe you should get a man to fix the problem?

Why thank you, I think my responses are pretty genius too. Glad we agree. :-) However, if you don't understand the website, I don't have the patience to explain it to you. Read the FAQ.

From David:

Simply for the domain name you deserve to die, bitch.

Gee, don't hold back, tell us what you really think. A domain name. Death. Sure, I see the connection. That makes perfect sense. <eyes rolled>

From Hans:

you are nothing else but losers that doesnt get anything in bed. I can´t see why the inferior sex is trying to stand against the superior sex. Why feminism take place on earth is just a mistake so please don't try to send an insignificant message to some other stupid girls. I am just 15 years
old and I shouldn't care but I do. The only thing women are good for is to make a blow job, hocker!!!

LOL, I bet you know lots and lots about sex and blow jobs, huh? Too bad it's all stuff you've read or seen on TV. I'm guessing you have no idea what women are good for. And did you mean to call me a "hooker" or did you really mean to call me a wad of spit? Interesting word choice. And how does one "make" a blow job?

From Hergeir:

I decided to take a peek at this site after it got mentioned on a Ricky Lake show. The thing is, I think you have a serious problem, and need to go visit a schrink!!! You can´t hate half of the world population, because you feel betrayed or something like that. Life is too short to be bitter, mad, to hate... nothing is more life draining than hating.

Just think about it...

This is the biggest paradox of a webpage I´ve ever seen... everything said here can be used against women too. There are no facts here only personal thoughts...bad... really bad. F.F.F. Fuck Fanatic Feminism!

You should have taken a longer "peek." Then you'd know what you were talking about. Better luck next time.

From Luke:

HEY SEXY WHAT R U WEARING AND WHAT IS UR BRA SIZE AND BY THE WAY R U A LESBIAN?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Is this supposed to impress me?

From Rick:

Why don't you stop whinging then you might find a bloke that treats you with respect,

I hate women who do nothing but winge.

I don't think my husband would like for me to find a "bloke" of any sort. Nor a girlfriend as was previously suggested.

From "Jesus":

How do I send you an email??? LOL just joking with ya. No seriously, I'm joking, I'm writing an email to you right now so of course I know how to do it. The good thing about me though is that I'm Jesus, not some idiot pretending to be Jesus, but the ACTUAL 100% original Jesus. So everything I say is right because I am a spiritual being. My point is that men aren't any of the things you said and to reinforce this...I'M JESUS...do you really think I could be wrong about this?? BEEP...wrong answer, in fact the real answer is no - I'm not wrong. I'm not biased in any way, I mean I'm not male, I'm compacted gas, compressed with the 7th element of light...that's what I'm made of...I just looked male on earth because people wouldn't follow the word of compressed gas would they? I wouldn't if I were them, so I see no reason that they would do for me what I wouldn't do for them. So without bias, I can officially say that your sight is wrong.

PS I don't like you ****joking

Perhaps you might want to consult a medical professional. They have all sorts of helpful medications these days for people like you. And e-mail like this (and the others on these pages) just goes to show how right my "sight" really is.

From Frank:

We brag about the fact that we can beat up women badly. Ha ha ha ha take that bitch

This isn't even worthy of a response. If you think this is a joking matter (or if you are serious), then you should seek help.

From Aseri:

i just want you to know that people can be that way. not every single man. stereotypes like these lead us in circles. its depressing. goodybe...i hope you dont really feel that way.

How I feel can be found on the site. Reading (and the ability to write and punctuate complete sentences) would help you a lot.

From Daniel L:

Before I begin my email, I must inform you that, yes ma'am, I am a man. I do realize you do hate men and the chances of you actually finishing this email is very slim. However, I am hoping you are open-minded enough to hear me out before you assume I am a stereotypical man passing along hateful emails. This is not hate-mail. Nor will I be bashing all women.

You do realize that, huh? Maybe you should be open-minded enough to read more than the home page before e-mailing me with this nonsense.

This is just to inform you that not all men are alike. Contrary to popular belief, some of us are caring individuals who don't have a passion to use and abuse women. The majority of my friends are female and I always hear stories about how men are scum. Whys is that a woman's assumptions about the male gender is derrived from pain one or two men have caused her? I've been hurt and stepped on by every woman I've ever been out with (my son's mother tried to keep him away from because of few rumors her friends told her about me.) but, like most men, I have not catagorized the entire female species as a bunch of heartless bitches. Why can't women do the same? There are good men out there, but they are the guys who are constantly getting passed up by women for whatever reason. I've noticed, at least by watching my female friends, that a woman's heartache and pain in relationships are caused because the lady goes for the same type of guy all the time. They never stop and think that they should change their standards and quit being so shallow. It doesn't make sense to stereotype and entire group of people because of what a few of them have done to you. We aren't all the same and I really hope you realize that one day.

The other night, my husband and I were discussing the fact that the guys who bitch and moan about being nice guys that girls only want as friends are overlooking the real problem. You claim that women want assholes and not the "nice" guys. Has it ever occurred to you that your level of "niceness" may not be the issue the relegates you to friend status? Maybe you are nice and insecure. Or nice and hideous looking. Or nice and obnoxious. Or nice and annoying. See, it's not the "nice" part that we have a problem with. It just seems that the "nice" guys have other glaring flaws that have nothing to do with how nice they are.

From Eman:

whats up in here

Look around and maybe you'll find out. But based on this e-mail, it might be over your head anyway.

From SJ:

y do u think ur ms. know it all?? just because some people dont agree with u, u think ur right? i dunno but ur a stuck up, no good mama...sorry...blahblahblah

Why oh why can't people form logical sentences? Why would I (or anyone) think I'm right "just because some people DON'T agree with me"? That doesn't make sense. Wouldn't someone be more likely to think they are right just because people DO agree with them? Either way, the answer is, yes, I think I'm right about most things. Thanks for asking.

From Bangla Babu:

HI !
I AM HOT! BANGLADESHI MALE . I LIKE TO FUCK ANY KINDS OF WOMENS OK. U GET THAT.

Yeah, good luck with that. Why don't I see it happening?

From Momodu lette:

I received three e-mail responses from this dude. My replies here are the ones I made to him and then his next e-mail and so on....

Email 1: i hate you.

I don't care.

Email 2: I HOPE YOU GET SICK REALLY SICK.

God, what a lovely person you are. You need help. I hope for your sake that you get it.

Email 3: Iam sorry i got cared away,i hope you could forgive me please e-mail me so we can learn more about each other.Who knows we might like each other or maybe even date. Thank:PLEASE FORGIVE ME.

Well, we can't date as I am married. (Not to mention the fact that you are an idiot, a jackass, and barely literate. I do have standards.)

From Shay Boogie:

My name is Shawna & I think all of you sound great! I want to meet a REAL man the can break me off! Drop me a line at [deleted]

Yes, I believe this is a girl. <eyes rolled> Nice try, dude.

From u smell:

bitch bitch botch hore fucking slut u r a bitch and hoe asswipe

People, please learn to spell your insults. Otherwise, it's just pathetic.

From Joe:

I honestly don't know whether you are actually serious about this site or not, but if you are, you have some serious pent up anger built up against men. Just so you know, not all women agree with you. Not all men are "pigs", we aren't all "stupid". You respond to hate mail with curt responses, often zeroing in on grammatical errors, etc to undermine their argument.. Although arguably most of the people who wrote the hate mail seem to be unable to express themselves in a manner which seems positive, I think what they were trying to say is the following;

You would know about the site if you read the FAQ. How many times do I have to say this? I can't wait to hear your theory on what the HateMALErs mean. Please continue....

Fine, Mothers work all day taking care of the children, etc. I think that this isn't really disputed. However, when we come home and your wife whines and moans about how you are 10 minutes late, and how she has had "such a rough day", it gets on your nerves. Also, although there are a few criticisms on this site that may be true about men, most of it is horribly biased and is just as bad as the very demeaning activities that you are condemning.

A woman can't have a rough day? How many times have you come home from work and complained of a rough day? I used to do that when I worked outside of the home. Then, once I became a mom, I realized that working in an office was much easier. You don't know rough days until you've been cooped up in a house with small children.

All I'm saying is, do you really hate men? Are your views really that extreme? It's never good to be extreme about anything, the only way you can really accurately think something through is through even-mindedness. Anyways, you will probably attempt to rip this email apart and undermine it in some way, but I hope that I got my message across.

All I'M saying is, read the FAQ and Bio. Jeez.

Lastly, this isn't necessarily 'hate mail', it is merely a comment. Perhaps you should add "Comment", in addition to merely "Hate Mail" and "Fan Mail". Perhaps things aren't all black and white.

I'll take that under advisement.

From Christina:

Ok this website is so dumb. You can't dis men like that, cause not all men are bad. Maybe you should make an Ihatewomen.com huh? yeah you should really think about that.~Christina

Oh for God's sake! Can't you people try seeing if that's a website before saying things like this? How hard is it? And Christina, I can "dis men like that." You should really think about THAT.

From Cathy Vera:

Just so know... there is no I Hate Women website you moron! So stop saying there is one in your come backs!

Please, oh please grant me the serenity to accept the fact that I'm forced to deal with morons....

From ICA:

Hey...i was readin somethin on ur site and i saw that you said there was no ihatewomen sight...well i typed in www.ihatewomen.com and there is a site! just wanted to letcha no

And w here did it say that? The HateMALE? You might try getting your information from me, not from the idiots who send me mail. You'd have better results that way.

From Sarah H:

If your so happy being married with children, why make a site about hating males?

What does one thing have to do with the other? Read my bio sweetie.

Those two sons of yours will eventually grow older to be men do you realize that?

Gee, who knew? <eyes rolled>

Your a smart woman obviously (and thank god because your quite ugly and you hair frankly scares me).

Good thing that impressing chicks that are too dumb to understand a website is not a priority for me.

I'm sure you will construct some good come backs for me, but tell me this... why would someone who claims to have "an undergraduate degree in psychology and masters in social work" waste there time making a website?

For the "pleasure" of talking with "intelligent" women like yourself, of course.

Many men and women in my family are successful like you in this field, and they would never have the time to even think of making such a ridiculous website. Maybe they are a bit further ahead than you or maybe your just not as smart as you think.

On my worst day, I'm smarter than you are on your best.

Seeing as how all you seem to do is criticize the improper spelling in your hate mail, perhaps PROVING that men are infact worse than women may make you seem less retarded. Oh yes, I forgot... you can't.

LOL. You're funny.

I am 17 years old and my future plans are to go to NYU and become a forensic scientist, so there go your chances of calling me an immature high school student.

Ummmm...where in this sentence did you dispute that? You are 17 and have "future" plans for college, implying you ARE a high school student.

I am proud to be a woman, and I like many others have been hurt by men but just like everyone of these women on your website. I know for a fact that I have hurt a man in the not so distant past. So to sum up my email men hurt women, women hurt men its part of life and some handle it better than others.

So you went into this whole tirade just so you could state the obvious? The above "theory" doesn't take a lot of thought. If this is the point you were trying to make, consider it made. But it wasn't really necessary for you to go to all this trouble as everyone knows that already.

But how smart do you look 'A Psychologist'? making a website on how she hates men? while being happily married?... yes that makes prenty of sense to you I'm sure. Get back to me soon please I look foward to it.

Yeah, yeah. Read my bio and the FAQ. How many times have I said this now? WAY too many. How hard is it to find out what the hell you are talking about before trying to have a conversation?

From Misterdude:

Maybe some of the IM opening lines are just comments and not inteneded to start a conversation. Mine was just a simple comment.

Interesting. You just go around online "making comments" to people and hoping it doesn't lead to a conversation? That's ummmm....unusual.

I don't even think you were online at the time. If my memory serves me correctly, you collected names of people that IM you and then sent a bulk email to all of them telling them you were sorry you weren't there and to get back to you.

I'm nothing if not polite. <grin> Wouldn't want the poor, desperate guys who IM me to think they were being ignored. It would be bad for their already low self-esteem.

So maybe you encourage them.

Maybe but it's just so fun to read their idiotic conversations here on the site. The way I see it, even if I am polite about an IM, it doesn't mean you have to make a jackass out of yourself by propositioning me or telling me the size of your penis. I DON'T encourage that. In fact, I frown on it.

Nevertheless, at least you amuse yourself.

That I do. And many others, I might add.

From Yason:

...hmmmmm will as u can see i am a guy obseeses with sex no.... i can controll myself.... rther play x box;)

Ummmm....OK.

i think ur abosoltly rite... i mean this page could be usefull to everyone including us everyones gullible.

And apparently, everyone's illiterate too. (The guys that e-mail me, anyway.)

i could be a kool page to read if u specifically direct men cause were no the only ones with faults... i am sure u'v sen girls just as bad as most of us.....

YOU could be a "kool page'? I'd like to see that. :-)

From Soil NYC:

Email 1: Mysogny is so easy. I'll pay the 8 dollars for the stupid flowers. Ill say the nice words, and act really interested. After im done fuckin em in the ass, and destroying their pathetic hearts ill move on to the next. Its women like you that create men like me. Im the sweet masculine gentle man with big hands and a warm open smile. Im the polite door opener and gym goer that secretly wants to destroy every fuckin princess in this city. Im the one that will charm you and be nice and will watch you destroy yourself as your bitch heart opens so sweetly and your legs spread predictably. Your wired through your heart, im wired through my cock. I win. Next.

Yes, you win. You win the award for the biggest loser yet. Congratulations. Are we supposed to be impressed with this? If so, you missed the mark. I feel nothing but pity for you and for anyone with the misfortune to know you.

Email 2: I wrote some time ago and haven't checked back to see if you published my email.. I checked today and you hadn't.. I didn't imagine you would though.

Why's that? Guess you didn't bother to read enough of the site to know that I publish every e-mail. What a shock.

Let me refresh your memory.. It was the one that started out by saying " Im the sweet man that opens the door for you. The one with nice manners and a good haircut." remember that email.?

That's not exactly what you said but no, I didn't remember it. I get too much e-mail to remember every single one, especially the ones that are barely worth reading. And the HateMALE gets posted when I get around to it. They don't just leap on the site by magic, ya know.

It went on to say that I practice kindness in order to go inside a woman's mind and find my way into her heart. I understand your wired differently. Its that wonderful thing that makes you so easy to destroy. Ill keep being kind to women, buying them flowers, showing up smelling sweet and full of hope and life. Ill nurture every fuckin daddy fantasy they have.Then, when they're in love and at their heart is open ill destroy every pathetic ounce of hope and love their simpering bitch hearts ever could hold.. Ill send them to hell, and then welcome them to ignore... That was the gist of the letter.

I guess this is where I'm supposed to be horrified that you are such an "evil" guy. Well, here's what I really think. I think you're a pathetic loser who can't get a girl to say hello to you, much less care about you. So you sit at home all alone and write ridiculous e-mail to strangers. It's pretty sad if you ask me.

Well, I just wanted to update you. Yes, your still the ENEMY, and yes I still practice misogyny daily.. Today I violated at least 20 women.

In your dreams, that is. So very sad.

I took my camera to a public place and got as close to the women's bodies as I legally could and photographed their tits and their ass'es and some of their faces. Sure some of them bitched.. They got the flash and a colorful explitive.. ill post the pictures soon. There is nothing illegal about violating women this way.

There's nothing impressive about it either. It's just further evidence that you are one pitiful guy. You have to photograph women without their consent because that's all you can do. It just gets more and more pathetic.

I've injured and further pushed back their woman cause by treating them in this manner. I continually will. I did meet a special woman today though.. She's common and troubled and has a pretty heart and huge tits. Her face is okay, and her hair is mediocre. Ill train her to be my slut before June, By October she'll be in pain and confused.. By December Ill make it better and right before the holidays, she'll get the fuckin boot. She has no idea what hell she's about to experience. I do. Ill open doors for her, bring her flowers, and do EVERY THING I possibly can to make this swampcunt bitch fall in love. Hopefully the affair will be prolonged. I cant wait to emotionally terrorize this bitch. Ill assault her psychologically and spoil her tenderly.. Its a great game.

If I really believed you, I'd say that one day, you'll end up in prison. But since I don't, I'll just say that you might want to look at the less violent porn instead of the violent stuff that gives you these sorts of fantasies. That happens a lot to guys who can't deal with women in a normal way. They turn their hatred outward to all women to "punish" them for scorning them. You should probably get help.

Anyway.. keep up he good work, and congratulations on your child. I'm certain you'll make a wonderful parent that will teach their child well.. I'll email again, unless of course you ask me not to. bye.

Thank you. I am, in fact, a wonderful parent. And gee, this was a while ago but no more e-mail from you. Darn. <eyes rolled>

From Daniel:

I'd like to quote you a couple of things, just to get your opinion...

Translation: I don't like your website and I'm going to insult you but I'm going to try to sound reasonable while doing it.

"* Married men almost never leave their wives for their girlfriends. You deserve more than to be in second place. Your best bet is to get out of the situation immediately. But, if you are positive that it is true love, give him a time limit in which to free himself to be with you and stick to it."

"* The old cliche, "Once a cheater, always a cheater," is true about 90% of the time. If he's cheated on you once, he will probably do it again."

Did you really THINK about these two items? Do you see a problem with the advice in them? No?

Yes, I did think about them, in fact. I agree with both statements.

Let's say I'm married and having an affair with you. You want things to get "official" between us, and you give me a deadline to end things with my wife. That's fine. In all likelihood, if I were having an extramarital affair, I WOULD end things with my wife, out of a sense of fair play -- but that's just me.

HOWEVER, this brings us to your SECOND piece of advice. If I am cheating on my wife with you, THERE IS A 90% PROBABILITY THAT I WILL CHEAT ON YOU ONCE I LEAVE HER. (I'm being generous by assuming you have a source to back up that 90% figure.)

The best advice you can give women based on that second piece of information -- and I know this is going to be extremely unpopular -- is this: DON'T HAVE AFFAIRS WITH MARRIED MEN. The logic is simple, and your own conclusion supports it: IF THEY'RE CHEATING ON THEIR WIVES, THEY *WILL* CHEAT ON *YOU*

Another one for stating the obvious. I know that and you know that and lots of other people know that but let's be practical here. I answer advice all day long so I'm in a better position to know the problems women face. And some people do not want to end things with their married men. So I provided a practical alternative. I guess it takes a woman to understand such complicated concepts.

From Joe:

Hi

I didn't have the time to read all the stuff you have...but I will, I agree with you that some men are animals,some should be deported to another planet.

I'm with you so far....

As I'm sure you realize, all men aren't really bad, they are on some kind of, ego, trip or something.

Still with you....

Take me...I think dogs are better than people, you wont find a better friend than a dog.
On the other hand...I have been burned by a few women myself and i came to the conclusion that some men are good, some women are good, some men are bad, some women are bad.
Good luck too you and I hope you find a real good man like myself someday and then you will be very happy.

And you lost me. Those who've read my bio (or this page even) before e-mailing me know that my husband would most likely frown on my finding a "real good man like yourself."

I am Joe

I am Kim.

From Userjoe:

Dear mam'
I'm a men that loves my wife I take good care of her i nurse her back to health, I treat her like royality. And number #1 Im a Christian. If people would realize want true love is you wouldn't feel that way. I don't no where you all stand, but Christ is the anwser to any relationship. My wife and I serve each other ,We love each so much nothing isn't uniportant to each other.

Good lord. Why do these people e-mail me?

From Robert Tofler:

Hi my name is Robert Tofler, I am an 18 year old MALE. I found your site while searching on the Internet for sources for an essay I have to do on modern day feminism. While reading your site I was horrified and disgusted, in you, and the women who write in it.

Awwww...I'm crushed. Not.

You are extremely bigoted, and you make sweeping generalizations when it comes to making anti-man comments. While doing my research I have come across my fair share of anti-man opinions before, and at least they try to come up with facts and at least thought out arguments. Try reading 'The Beauty Myth', 'Gender Shock' or 'Backlash' and you will see that all your site is doing is increasing men's anger towards woman, and because of you and your fellow like minded companions, you are setting back any sort of equality in our society.

And maybe YOU could try reading things like the FAQ and my bio. You might learn something.

There is also a lot of instances in out society where women are much better off, for example, in a divorce case a women will get FULL custody of the children nearly 90% of the time, this is even if the mother is woefully unequipped to look after them. The problem with your site is that you stereotype men, you say they are being typically male, do you know who places these images on men? Woman! To achieve any sort of equality in this society or even get rid of 'the patriarchal dominance' some woman think men hold, everyone needs to try and not generalize, not stereotype and definitely not abuse. Thanks to you, you are only digger yourself and the women you are trying to 'help' into an even deeper hole! Robert Tofler.

Gee, how awful of me. Dude, make a quick effort to grasp the site before you e-mail again. It will really make you seem much more intelligent.

P.S: I would be interested to see what you have to say, and if you can even think up one good reason why your site should stay open, and how it helps.

I can think of dozens of reasons, not that I need your opinion or approval. But since I don't have all day to explain the ins and outs of why this site is not only helpful, but in many respects, necessary, I'll just give you the top 5. It gives women (or men) who have relationship problems a place to 1) vent 2) ease their pain through laughter 3) get advice 4) find others who understand and 5) get help and information about serious subjects such as divorce, depression, death of a spouse, domestic violence, and sexual assault. Plus it makes a nice companion to www.ihatewomen.com.

From Pre22:

I have no pick-up lines to send in. But if you can share any good ideas of how to even start a conversation with a woman I'd like to hear them. Besides these corny pick-up lines do work as some kind of ice-breaker. So there...

An ice breaker. Hmmmm. Usually, I just dismiss a guy using these sad pickup lines as a sleaze or some other type of person that I do not wish to meet.

From Pradeep:

Is this the way you women think about us men? I am a 15 year old male from New Jersey and am very much disturbed by all the comments against men on this website!

LOL. If you find the comments on the website so disturbing, why exactly did you go to a site called I Hate Men in the first place?

Though I have a good sense of humor, you went too far criticizing men! Why do you women always criticize us men? Not just this site, my female friends send me a lot of chain email letters that compare men and women and show women to be innocent, caring, and loving, and show men as ruthless heart-breakers.

I get a lot of those too and some of them are pretty damn funny. See the jokes page for the best ones....

We men never criticize women, even though some have been heart-breaken by women.

What planet do you live on? Men NEVER criticize women? Maybe you should do a little more research. You can start with www.ihatewomen.com and go from there.

As a personal experience, the first and the last girlfriend I had a year ago went out with me because I was the smartest student in all subjects and she was weak in every single one of them. After she passed the grade with all A's because of me, she dumped me for her ex-boyfriend. Even after that, up until coming on this website, I had tons of respect for women, but guess what this site just did to my respect!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am I supposed to care about this?

From Depressive Juice:

You're a therapist and a housewife. Well that explains everything! :o)

Yes, it certainly explains why I work harder than most men with "outside jobs" since raising kids is one of the most challenging jobs there is. And it explains why I'm able to help people sort out their relationship problems. You're right. It explains everything.

From CJ:

Actually, classify this email as you wish.. no hate here in my opinion... But thats just me!
Kim.. you must have alot of time on your hands to dedicate a site that supports hate.. You are guilty of a hate crime yourself.. I find it ironic that a site such as yours supports the hate/hurt/destruction of men yet list a few stop the hate sites. This is not funny... HATE is an ugly word.. DO you know that YOU AND ALL WOMEN COME FROM A MAN... YOUR FATHER!!! Too hate men is to hate everything about you.. to hate your father.. to hate creation.. It was that man who created you and allows for you to spit such BS. I truly hope you come to your sences and stop this nonsence!

Jeez...just when I was thinking the intelligence level of some of my HateMALE was increasing, I get something like this. I won't mention that reading the FAQ and bio would have helped you understand the site and thus make this drivel unnecessary. Instead, I'll point out that it's the most circular logic I've heard in a long time. Talk about a lot of time on your hands....

From Ruk:

What the hell is wrong with you. I've come to this site for the first time and the first thing that I read is some sissy as, mad about dawsons creek,I'm going to stop watching the WB bullshit. I was actually going to tell my girlfriend about this site, because she is the type thats constantly pissed about something but not after that shit. Women like you could only make things worst.

And the literacy level continues to decrease. Let's count the spelling and grammar errors in this since your opinion on my TV schedule doesn't interest me too much. I count 8. Pretty impressive for 3 sentences. Impressively sad, that is.

Please believe a man who loves women when I say that hating us helps you none

I'll make a note of that. <eyes rolled>

From Nick:

Im sure you will soon disregard this message after the next few lines as Im sure its not the first of its kind. Still, I write to you not so much in vain hopes that I might enlighten you or the likes of any woman (being stubborn on my beliefs I understand you probably are too), but more for my own satisfaction to let this off of my chest. Yes I really do not have much better to do.

Obviously.

You are an idiot, and this whole site serves nothing more than to prove that women are really not capable of acting intellegently or independantly. Though I managed to waste a good hour browsing the site, I really didnt find any kind of substantial argument supporting the claims you make against men.

In that hour, you couldn't find the FAQ, disclaimer, or my bio? Man, you must read really, really S - L - O - W - L - Y.

Your evidence consists of lame one liners about stupid men and thinking about sex and basically things you and your submitters probably saw on a t-shirt or a bumper sticker. You have quotes from television sitcoms. Please. None of this proves anything but the fact that women sit and spew whatever they hear, and few are willing to get off their rear to actually accomplish something (like come up with a decent argument).

More selective reading, I see. In addition to the aforementioned pages, you also managed to "miss" 90% of the quotes and presumably at least 80% of the site if you didn't find any "decent arguments."

I have yet to be presented with any real fact or statistic to prove anything youve said. This is just pointless jargon that makes women feel better about themselves and leads them to believe that for some reason they should be treated like goddesses. Your emailers all say that they have dealt with too much from men and they just cant take it any more, but they all neglect to mention the fact that the female race has brought its position unto itself. Ugh. It makes my head hurt.

Well then we have something in common. You are giving me a headache as well.

On a more positive note, I do appreciate the 'tips for men' section. If youre going to bitch about us so much I suppose its good to have suggestions on what to fix... I leave you with a quote, and a link to the site it came from (I fully admit I am not as brilliant as the site creator). Please feel free to email me with your thoughts should you feel the need. "Special message to the American 'ladies':
"The next time you joke about how useless and incompetent men are, here is something that will never dawn on you, babe: the only reason you can even speak so ignorantly is because 'useless' men have created and built, through invention and back-breaking labor, the means for you to live so comfortably. This is what grants you the ability to think about something other than day-to-day survival, as you will never deign to dirty your hands with chopping your own firewood, fetching your own potable water or building your own house. No matter how 'independent' you fancy yourself to be, if men stopped doing all this work for you, you'd perish within days. So you are free to do things like color your toenails, sob at the soaps, look all pertied-up, gab with your friends over margaritas and all of the assorted self-centered garbage that you useless, mollycoddled, painted American sluts do all day long. The truth is you are an utterly mindless parasite who'd rather scream "GIRL POWER" than get half a clue."

If, as you say, you aren't as brilliant as the guy who came up with this quote, you must be pretty damn stupid because the IQ level required to come up with the above paragraph is awfully low.

~nice guy

Which gives support to my theory that the men who think they are "too nice" to get a girl, have other glaring problems, making their "niceness" irrelevant.

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